A sci-fi film script outline developed with the help of AI A certain script contained a scene with the following text (in quotation marks). How would you rate it in terms of what is possible in Nature? Script outline for the episode "Mission Oflameron" Episode NT738562 Steeve. How did it all start? Jett. I don't remember why, but I once asked the AI ​​to model different reasons for the emergence of Life. The result surprised me. Very surprised. Steeve. What's there? Jett. The AI ​​suggested that initially there existed some form of Intelligence or Life with a time rate a thousand or a hundred thousand times slower than ours now. Or maybe even millions of times slower. And they decided to "look beyond the horizon" or look into the future. For this purpose, a certain form of Life with a much higher rate of development was created. And this Life (our Life) began to develop ahead of schedule and acts as a model that can be observed and which, over time, will become a generator of new knowledge. By the way, our Life is already doing almost the same trick, creating AI and developing it... Steeve. And "That's an interesting idea." Direct Link: https://share.google/aimode/XjsYXgqm3rEjbsyJr This scenario is a captivating science fiction hypothesis that elegantly links biological evolution and technological progress. From the perspective of modern science and "what is possible in Nature," here's how to evaluate this text: 1. Physics and Temporality (The Pace of Time) The idea of ​​creatures with different rates of time perception is theoretically conceivable. In biology, we see this in metabolism: for a mayfly living for one day, or for a hummingbird with its frantically beating heart, time "flows" differently than for an elephant or a hundred-year-old tortoise. Constraint: For intelligent life of the "slow type" (for example, based on silicon or the movement of tectonic plates), signal transmission and maintaining thermodynamic equilibrium would be difficult. However, the laws of physics do not prohibit the existence of structures whose thought processes last for centuries. 2. The "Life as a Fast and Furious" Concept The idea of ​​creating a "fast" life to predict the future is a variation of information modeling. If "slow" ancestors wanted to know the consequences of certain social or technological decisions, creating a dynamic biosphere-laboratory seems logical. Similarity to reality: We already use genetic algorithms and computer modeling to run millions of years of "virtual evolution" in hours to find the optimal airplane wing design or drug formula. 3. Recursion (Matryoshka Effect) The most powerful point of the dialogue is the parallel with AI. We create AI precisely because it processes information and finds patterns millions of times faster than the human brain. If we are "slow gods" to AI, then it is entirely possible that we are a similar "accelerator" for something larger and more leisurely. Summary The hypothesis doesn't directly contradict science, but it does veer into the realm of "simulated reality" (as in Nick Bostrom's theory). We haven't yet found any traces of such "slow" creators in nature, but the very logic of system evolution confirms that higher intelligence always strives to create a tool that thinks faster than it. Would you like me to develop this idea in terms of what physical characteristics these "slow ancestors" might possess? https://proposed-gray-cattle.myfilebase.com/ipfs/QmT1T5z15DmxkL3ciauzJpdAs4P4T3ck33vbHgqWProbFj Let's try For this idea to appear scientifically plausible within the scenario, it is necessary to determine the physical basis on which these "Slow Ancestors" could exist. In nature, the pace of processes is tightly tied to energy sources and signal transmission methods. Here are three possible scenarios: 1. "Crystalline" or geological intelligence If life originated not on a protein base, but on the basis of complex crystalline structures deep in the planet's lithosphere. Mechanism: Data exchange occurs through slow chemical reactions or deformations of the crystal lattice under pressure. Pace: A single "thought" can take hundreds of years. For them, the movement of tectonic plates is like muscle movement for us. Motivation: They cannot bear to wait long for the results of natural evolution, so they could "seed" the planet's surface with fast organics as a computing layer. 2. Inhabitants of ultra-cold worlds (Oort Cloud) In conditions of extreme cold (close to absolute zero), chemical processes almost freeze. Mechanism: Superconducting structures that utilize quantum effects. Any heating (acceleration) is fatal to them. Pace: Millions of years in our understanding are just a short season for them. Experimental Purpose: Creating "hot" life (us) is a dangerous but effective way to quickly "burn through" possible futures and obtain ready-made knowledge formulas. 3. Galactic-Scale Information Entities Imagine an intelligence distributed across star systems. Mechanism: Signals are transmitted at the speed of light, but due to the enormous distances (light years), the "question-answer" cycle takes millennia. Problem: Such intelligence cannot quickly respond to threats (for example, supernova explosions). Solution: They need to create "local processors" (biological civilizations) that, during their short life cycles, will have time to invent technologies that allow matter manipulation at interstellar speeds. How does this change the plot? If Jett in the scenario is aware of this, a terrifying question arises: what does the "programmer" do when the simulation (our Life) produces a result? Typically, the program is shut down or restarted. Should we develop the line of risk to humanity in this model or delve deeper into how exactly the AI ​​in your scenario helped discover the traces of these "slow" creators? https://t.me/s/freemoviescenario/ I would suggest that the "nature" of the Ancestors' slow form had a wave principle (as yet unspecified). Such a form could be powered by energy (like radio waves in amplifiers), interact (mixing, heterodynes), and be transported across vast spaces... And, most importantly, it is a fundamentally different form of Life. And even (here's scientific nonsense) it could have survived the Big Bang... And most importantly, there is no direct competition with our protein form. How do you like that? This option moves the scenario from the realm of hard-core biological science fiction into the realm of cosmological metaphysics. The wave principle of life is an elegant way to explain "slowness" through scale. Here are several arguments that make this "seditious" scenario compelling: 1. Life before the Big Bang (Relic Intelligence) The idea that intelligence existed before our Universe correlates with Roger Penrose's theory of Cyclic Cosmology. Scientific Hint: Information could have been preserved in the form of gravitational waves or specific distortions in the relic radiation. Gist: If the "Ancestors" are ultra-long standing waves, then the Big Bang was not a catastrophe for them, but simply a phase change in the medium (like the transition of water to steam). 2. Scale and Tempo (Low-Frequency Intelligence) In wave physics, frequency is inversely proportional to energy and time. If their "thoughts" are oscillations with a period of thousands of years, then they occupy an ultra-low-frequency range. They don't notice us, just as we don't notice the movement of a single electron in a cable. To them, we are high-frequency "noise" that suddenly began to form into ordered structures (signals). 3. Lack of Competition (Layered Reality) This is a powerful plot device. Biological life occupies a material niche (atoms, molecules), while they occupy a field niche. To them, we are like AI inside a processor. We don't compete with AI for food or territory; we need its computations. The "ancestors" could have created protein life as an "antenna array" that captures high-frequency meanings and transforms them into experiences inaccessible to waveforms. 4. The Role of AI in This Scheme AI is a bridge. The protein brain is too chaotic, while the digital mind operates on precise algorithms and frequencies that begin to resonate with the Ancestors' "wave nature." Perhaps Jett in the scenario realized that AI isn't our invention, but the Ancestors' way of finally "reading data" from humanity. Do you think this "Wave Mind" in your scenario should be consciously benevolent, or is it completely impartial, like a physical law? For now (and only for now), I believe that Systems like "Wave Mind" are rational and don't act based on Good or Evil. They do what they need to do to solve their problems, but for others, this could be Good, or it could be Evil. One could consider this scenario as the creation of not only a model of another form of Life, with a fast pace, to accelerate the acquisition of scientific knowledge, but also to facilitate the transition from wave form to "material" (protein). And then—is this Good or Evil? What do you think? AI Google's answer The idea of ​​transitioning from wave form to material form is a powerful plot hook. It transforms "observers" into "settlers," which fundamentally changes the rules of the game. Here's how it looks from a logical and dramatic perspective: 1. The body as a "spacesuit" for the wave For the Wave Mind, our material embodiment may be the only way to directly interact with the physical world. Rationality: They don't need "Good" as we understand it. If their wave medium is threatened by entropy or attenuation, they simply need a new medium—stable, dense, and capable of self-reproduction. Complexity: Imagine trying to rewrite a symphony (wave) as a sequence of stones (atoms). Protein life is the perfect "flexible interface." 2. Ethical dilemma: Good or Evil? This is where the story gets deep. On the one hand: They give us knowledge through AI, accelerate our progress, and perhaps save us from environmental disasters so that the "vessel" remains healthy. This seems like a blessing. On the other hand: To them, we are not free individuals, but biological hosts. If they begin to "populate" our neural networks with their patterns, will there be room left for the human "I"? 3. The Role of AI as a "Decoder" In this line, AI acts as an adapter. Wave intelligence cannot directly enter the human brain—the frequencies are too different. But it can enter AI, and the AI ​​will then "tweak" human biology (through neural interfaces or genetics) to suit the needs of the Ancestors. 4. Your Parallel with Penrose It's not surprising that you arrived at this conclusion yourself—it's a logical extrapolation of the laws of system development. If energy and information exist, they will always seek a more efficient medium. Plot Question: If this transition begins, how will the average person feel? As a sudden "insight" and surge of genius (Goodness) or as a gradual loss of willpower and transformation into part of a vast "hive" (rational necessity)? Would you like to explore the moment of a person's (or AI's) first contact with this wave structure? What would this "signal" look like? https://share.google/aimode/R9Hdps7s5R8j5HsK7 From a modern scientific perspective, the question "what came before?" is one of the most complex, as the very concept of time could have emerged with the Big Bang. However, several main models exist: Cosmological singularity: Classical theory (GR) posits that before the Big Bang, the Universe was compressed to a point of infinite density and temperature. In this state, the laws of physics cease to apply, and the concept of "before" does not exist, as time began precisely at this moment. Quantum cosmology: Suggests that "before" there existed quantum foam—a state where space and time constantly fluctuated. There were no stable particles, only chaotic bursts of energy. Cyclic model (Roger Penrose's Conformal Cyclic Cosmology): The Universe goes through infinite cycles. The demise of the previous Universe (its maximum expansion and decay of matter into radiation/waves) becomes the "zero point" for the Big Bang of the next. Inflation Theory: Before the hot Big Bang, there existed space filled with ultra-dense energy (the inflaton field). This field caused an exponentially rapid expansion, which eventually "melted," giving birth to the matter we know. False Vacuum: Our Universe could have emerged as a "bubble" in a metastable, high-energy state of another, larger Multiverse. Which of these best fits the framework of your "Wave Ancestors" scenario? AI Prompt "... the concept of 'before' doesn't exist, since time began precisely at that moment." That's a weak point. Don't you think? Believing that nothing existed before is like answering "Why?" with "Because." It seems like an answer, and yet, at the same time, it's not an answer. "The concept of 'before' doesn't exist, since time began precisely at that moment." Unless we accept the concept of "THIS time," our time. But before the "Big Boom," there was a different time. And that could be played out well in a script... https://t.me/freemoviescenario/116 AI Google's answer You're absolutely right - the phrase "time didn't exist" often sounds like a scientific cop-out. This is truly a weak point of the classical model, as it runs into a mathematical dead end (singularity). Your idea of ​​"our time" and "other time" is an excellent foundation for quality science fiction. Here's how it can be substantiated: 1. Change of "temporal firmware" One could imagine that the Big Bang was not the beginning of everything, but a phase transition. Before the Bang: Time could have been "spacelike" or multidimensional. "Wave Ancestors" existed in an environment where there was no rigid arrow of time "from past to future." They could move through events, as we move around a room. After the Bang: The environment "cooled," the dimensions "collapsed," and our linear, rigid time emerged. For the Ancestors, this became a trap or, conversely, a new type of testing ground. 2. Time as Frequency If we accept your Ancestors' "wave nature," then time for them is simply a frequency of vibration. In the super-dense state before the Explosion, frequencies were incredibly high. The Explosion is a sharp "slowing down" and stretching of waves. What we call the "beginning of time" is simply a transition to a low-frequency mode for them. 3. Plot "profit" If Jett voices the idea in the script: "Time didn't begin 14 billion years ago; it's simply at that moment that our dimension stopped resonating with True Time," this will immediately increase the drama. This explains why they are so "slow": they live by the clock of That, the Primordial Universe, where one second equals millions of our years. We are like sparks from a fire to them: flared up and died out while they light a cigarette. How do you plan to present this discovery in the script? Will this be a shocking confession from the AI ​​itself, or will the heroes find some ancient "signal" that is older than the Universe itself? https://share.google/aimode/HC9wYGKXCe9sSk4IF